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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:15 pm    Post subject: BOOM! Yet Another Buffy # 3 Variant Cover Reply with quote

Buffy Comics From BOOM! Studios Offically Announced

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/20/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-stakes-out-a-new-home-at-boom-studios

Buffy the Vampire Slayer Stakes Out a New Home at BOOM! Studios

IGN exclusive first details on Buffy’s big move.

By Joshua Yehl

Comic books featuring Buffy the Vampire Slayer now have a new home at publisher BOOM! Studios

The license for comics based on the Joss Whedon-created franchise previously belonged to Dark Horse Comics and now, after 20 years, it will be moving to a new comic publisher for the first time. BOOM! has plans to release new Buffy monthly comic series, limited series, graphic novels, and more in partnership with 20th Century Fox Consumer Products.




During Buffy’s time at Dark Horse, numerous tie-in comics were produced, most notably a series of comics supervised (and sometimes written) by Whedon that continued from where the television show left off, titled Season Eight, Nine, Ten and so on. The final issue of Season Twelve released yesterday, and the trade paperback for Season Twelve, out on December 12, will be Dark Horse’s final Buffy publication. All previously published Buffy comics will be fair game for re-publication under BOOM!. Dark Horse’s Buffy license expires at the end of 2018, so BOOM! will be free to publish Buffy comics starting in 2019, although an official launch date has yet to be revealed.

“I remember watching the premiere of Buffy the Vampire Slayer over 20 years ago, and the feeling of empowerment that came with seeing a girl get to kick ass and have flaws at the same time, and to not apologize for who she was. It’s an honor to oversee that world for a new generation and to bring them that same feeling of knowing your greatest power comes from being true to who you are,” BOOM! Studios Executive Editor Jeanine Schaefer said in a statement provided to IGN. “Buffy is about love at its core, love for your friends and yourself. The characters are allowed to be equal parts human and monster, and seeing them struggle to balance those parts of themselves, the same parts we all struggle with, is why it still resonates with audiences of all ages and backgrounds today.”

BOOM! also publishes comics based on popular franchises Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Adventure Time, and Planet of the Apes, among others, in addition to original series like Abbott, Mech Cadet Yu, and the award-winning hit Lumberjanes.

https://www.cbr.com/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-boom-studios/

BOOM! Studios Acquires Buffy the Vampire Slayer License

BOOM! Studios has partnered with 20th Century Fox for a new line of Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics, graphic novels and more.



Joss Whedon’s Buffy The Vampire Slayer has found a new publishing home at BOOM! Studios.

Announced today by IGN, BOOM! will partner with 20th Century Fox to release new comic book series, limited series, original graphic novels and more, all centered around the Buffy franchise.

“I remember watching the premiere of Buffy the Vampire Slayer over twenty years ago, and the feeling of empowerment that came with seeing a girl get to kick ass and have flaws at the same time, and to not apologize for who she was. It’s an honor to oversee that world for a new generation and to bring them that same feeling of knowing your greatest power comes from being true to who you are,” BOOM! Studios Executive Editor Jeanine Schaefer tells IGN. “Buffy is about love at its core, love for your friends and yourself. The characters are allowed to be equal parts human and monster, and seeing them struggle to balance those parts of themselves, the same parts we all struggle with, is why it still resonates with audiences of all ages and backgrounds today.”

Promotional art for the announcement shows Sarah Michelle Gellar’s Buffy Summers standing in front of her high school, a pack of zombies with a cell phone in one hand and a wooden stake in the other, highlighted with the phrase, “High School is Hell.”



In an interview with CBR in August, Whedon revealed Fox’s plans to pull the Buffy and Firefly licenses from Dark Horse, ending a 20-year relationship between the property and the publisher.

Debuting on The WB Television Network in 1997, Buffy the Vampire Slayer ran for seven seasons and starred Sarah Michelle Gellar as “Buffy Summers.” 20th Century Fox Television is working on a Buffy reboot alongside Whedon, with the series set to feature a black actress in the title role.


I'm surprised that they are announcing it this early.I figured next year or maybe at NYCC in a few weeks.The day after the final Dark Horse issue hits is a surprise.

Based on the artwork,it looks like we are returning to high school.But is this new stories set in the season 1-3 era or a reboot because Buffy is sporting modern tech..


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https://www.newsarama.com/41908-new-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-series-launching-at-a-new-home.html

New BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Comic Book Series Launching at a New Publisher

By Chris Arrant, Editor September 20, 2018

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BOOM! Studios has acquired the comic book license for Joss Whedon's Buffy the Vampire Slayer, following 20 years exclusively at Dark Horse Comics. First reported by IGN, BOOM! plans to launch a new Buffy monthly title, as well as limited series and graphic novels.

"I remember watching the premiere of Buffy the Vampire Slayer over 20 years ago, and the feeling of empowerment that came with seeing a girl get to kick ass and have flaws at the same time, and to not apologize for who she was. It’s an honor to oversee that world for a new generation and to bring them that same feeling of knowing your greatest power comes from being true to who you are," said BOOM! Executive Editor Jeanine Schaefer.

"Buffy is about love at its core, love for your friends and yourself. The characters are allowed to be equal parts human and monster, and seeing them struggle to balance those parts of themselves, the same parts we all struggle with, is why it still resonates with audiences of all ages and backgrounds today.”

Dark Horse's last original Buffy issue, Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 12, The Reckoning #4, was released this week. A collection of that limited series is due out December 12, with Dark Horse's license expiring at the end of 2018.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer is owned by 20th Century Fox, which owns a stake in BOOM! Studios. Neither BOOM! nor Fox have stated how the impending Walt Disney Company acquisition of Fox will impact BOOM! or the Buffy franchise.

BOOM! Studios is scheduled to begin publishing Buffy in 2019.

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https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-comics-find-a-new-home-at-boom-studios

Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics find a new home at BOOM! Studios



Just one month after it was announced the franchise would leave Dark Horse Comics after two decades, Buffy the Vampire Slayer has a new publishing home.

According to IGN, BOOM! Studios has partnered with Twentieth Century Fox Consumer Products to pick up the Buffy comic book license beginning next year, giving the publisher the right to publish all new ongoing and limited comic book series about Buffy and her various friends and enemies.

“I remember watching the premiere of Buffy the Vampire Slayer over 20 years ago, and the feeling of empowerment that came with seeing a girl get to kick ass and have flaws at the same time, and to not apologize for who she was. It’s an honor to oversee that world for a new generation and to bring them that same feeling of knowing your greatest power comes from being true to who you are,” BOOM! Studios Executive Editor Jeanine Schaefer said in a statement provided to IGN. “Buffy is about love at its core, love for your friends and yourself. The characters are allowed to be equal parts human and monster, and seeing them struggle to balance those parts of themselves, the same parts we all struggle with, is why it still resonates with audiences of all ages and backgrounds today.”

https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1042760559203151873

Dark Horse published the final issue of Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season Twelve this week, marking the end of two decades of tie-in comics that most famously included a continuation of the Buffy saga after the show went off the air in 2003. Buffy creator Joss Whedon returned to Dark Horse to help finish that incarnation of the Buffy story this year, but it's not clear if he'll now follow the franchise over to BOOM! Dark Horse's final Buffy publication will be the Season Twelve trade paperback collection in December, and BOOM! will take over the license for the property beginning in 2019.

That said, BOOM! has not yet announced any concrete plans for what it will do with Buffy once it has the franchise. The publisher will reportedly have the right to reprint any of the Dark Horse material it wants, so it could presumably consider all of that to be canonical, or it could strike out on its own. However it all shakes out, this a chance for BOOM! — a publisher already known for hits like Lumberjanes and an acclaimed line of comics based on the Adventure Time TV series — to make its mark on one of the most beloved genre franchises of the past three decades just as Buffy is heading into reboot territory.

We'll bring you more details on Buffy's new comic book home as we get them. For now, just know that the lull in new comics from the world of the Slayer will not be a very long one.
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Buffy Comic News Tomorrow at NYCC18 BOOM! Studios Panel

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/10/04/boom-studios-will-treat-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-d-power-rangers/

Boom Studios Will Treat Buffy The Vampire Slayer As They Did Power Rangers

Posted by Rich Johnston October 4, 2018

Phil from Boom Studios had some good news (for Boom that is) for the retailers at New York Comic Con’s comic book retailer breakfast.

“BOOM Studios is beating the market 13% this year.” Which means that they have increasing by 6% while the direct market has dropped 7%. Ouch. And the Power Rangers helped…

“One of our biggest wins was Shattered Grid”

Ranger Slayer is a fan favorite and is the leader of the new team

Beyond the Grid will include new characters like Solar Ranger who might be the “most important character we’ve ever introduced.”

Joss Whedon’s Firefly is coming with the Unification War

Year 1 of the Firefly mythos, with Boom reporting that orders are “fantastic”.

It’s the first time Firefly is published as a monthly ongoing series. They are also doing legacy prints of prior Firefly issues

And a “Big Damn Heroes” legacy box

The creative team and details on the new Buffy comic will be announced tomorrow at Boom’s panel at the show.

They plan to be reimagining Buffy the way they did Power Rangers in 2015



The BOOM! panel is 1:30 to 2:30 PM eastern tomorrow

http://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/en/Sessions/65983/BOOM-Studios-Discover-Yours

October 05, 2018, 1:30 PM - 2:30 PM

Room 1A24 – Javits Center

Discover your new comic book obsession at Comic-Con - and we guarantee you’re going to find it at this panel! Join visionary author R.L. Stine (Just Beyond), Lilah Sturges(Lumberjanes: The Infernal Compass), Greg Pak (Firefly), Delilah S. Dawson(Sparrowhawk), Claudio Sanchez (Amory Wars), Lev Grossman (The Magicians: Alice’s Story) and Matt Gagnon (Editor in Chief, BOOM! Studios) for a jam-packed, interactive panel featuring the most acclaimed creators in comics as they discuss the diverse imprints of BOOM! Studios, Archaia, BOOM! Box and KaBOOM! with surprises for everyone in the audience. Moderated by Filip Sablik (President, Publishing & Marketing, BOOM! Studios).
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https://www.cbr.com/buffy-vampire-slayer-comic-creative-team-whedon/

EXCLUSIVE: Whedon, Bellaire & Mora Lead Buffy The Vampire Slayer Comic Reboot

Stephen Gerding CBR Exclusives

Joss Whedon is overseeing BOOM! Studios' reboot of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics, with creators Jordie Bellaire and Dan Mora.



Today, BOOM! Studios finally unveiled the creative team that will be responsible for helming the publisher’s imminent Buffy the Vampire Slayer comic, along with new details on how the new comic fits — or doesn’t — into the previous run at Dark Horse Comics.

CBR can exclusively reveal that writer Jordie Bellaire and artist Dan Mora are working with creator and story consultant Joss Whedon to reboot the entire Buffy concept from day one.

Artist Matthew Taylor is providing the series with its main cover, while a line up including Kevin Wada, Royal Dunlap, Becca Carey and Jen Bartel will produce variants. You can check out a few of them in the gallery below.

The series’ official synopsis reads:

This is the Buffy Summers you know, who wants what every average teenager wants: friends at her new school, decent grades, and to escape her imposed destiny as the next in a long line of vampire slayers tasked with defeating the forces of evil. But the Slayer’s world looks a lot more like the one outside your window, as this new series brings her into a new era with new challenges, new friends…and a few enemies you might already recognize. The more things change, the more they stay the same, as the Gang – Giles, Willow, Xander, Cordelia and more – faces brand new Big Bads, and a threat lurking beneath the perfectly manicured exterior of Sunnydale High, confirming what every teenager has always known: high school truly is hell.

WELCOME BACK TO THE HELLMOUTH, FOR THE FIRST TIME!

“Buffy has brought my life so much joy and to be part of that now is ridiculously overwhelming on many levels,” Bellaire said in a statement. “My very favorite aspect of Buffy is how we have a wide group of characters that love each other, hurt each other and sometimes, they even kill each other. I can’t wait to dabble within that universe to find new stories, explore older ones and forever maintain the theme of self discovery and growing up, whatever that means.”

“It’s an exciting opportunity to be part of reimagining and redesigning the world of Buffy for a modern era while also honoring its exciting history,” Mora had to say about rebuilding the Scooby Gang from the ground up. “The series offers a unique mix of horror, action and the experience of being a teenager where it feels like the world is ending – and in this case, it might!”

“The world of Buffy The Vampire Slayer has been so richly developed over the last twenty years, so when it came time for us to decide where to take the franchise under Joss’ guidance, there was only one answer in our minds – reimagining the story of Buffy and the Gang for a new generation,” Executive Editor Jeanine Schaefer said of the reboot. “The world right now is scarier than it’s ever been; placing these characters firmly in 2019, we can use the themes that were so integral to the show — identity, agency, and empathy — to examine our world and the heroes and monsters that lurk inside all of us…and punch those monsters right in the face. Whether you’re a long time member of the Scooby Gang or totally new to the world of the Chosen One, Buffy the Vampire Slayer #1 was made for you.”

Buffy the Vampire Slayer #1, by Jordie Bellaire, Dan Mora and Joss Whedon, arrives Wednesday, January 9 from BOOM! Studios


art gallery here.

https://www.cbr.com/buffy-vampire-slayer-comic-creative-team-whedon/#gallery=1

1)So Joss is involved.

2)Its a reboot

3)It launches in January.

https://www.newsarama.com/42210-joss-whedon-leads-boom-in-reimagining-and-redesigning-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-for-comic-books.html

JOSS WHEDON Leads BOOM! in 'Reimagining and Redesigning' BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER for Comic Books

By George Marston, Newsarama Contributor
October 5, 2018

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Buffy the Vampire Slayer creator Joss Whedon will work as a "story consultant" with BOOM! Studios to reboot Buffy the Vampire Slayer for comic books, according to CBR.

BOOM!'s plans to launch new Buffy comic books were reported earlier this year with no creative team attached. Artists Dan Mora and Jordie Bellaire will join Whedon on the reboot which, in Mora's words, will bring a whole new look to the world of Buffy Summers.

“It’s an exciting opportunity to be part of reimagining and redesigning the world of Buffy for a modern era while also honoring its exciting history,” Mora told CBR. “The series offers a unique mix of horror, action and the experience of being a teenager where it feels like the world is ending – and in this case, it might!”

“Buffy has brought my life so much joy and to be part of that now is ridiculously overwhelming on many levels,” added Bellaire. “My very favorite aspect of Buffy is how we have a wide group of characters that love each other, hurt each other and sometimes, they even kill each other. I can’t wait to dabble within that universe to find new stories, explore older ones and forever maintain the theme of self discovery and growing up, whatever that means.”

Here's the official synopsis for the rebooted series:

"This is the Buffy Summers you know, who wants what every average teenager wants: friends at her new school, decent grades, and to escape her imposed destiny as the next in a long line of vampire slayers tasked with defeating the forces of evil. But the Slayer’s world looks a lot more like the one outside your window, as this new series brings her into a new era with new challenges, new friends…and a few enemies you might already recognize. The more things change, the more they stay the same, as the Gang – Giles, Willow, Xander, Cordelia and more – faces brand new Big Bads, and a threat lurking beneath the perfectly manicured exterior of Sunnydale High, confirming what every teenager has always known: high school truly is hell. WELCOME BACK TO THE HELLMOUTH, FOR THE FIRST TIME!"

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Buffy the Vampire Slayer #1 is due out January 9.

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https://www.cbr.com/buffy-comic-variant-cover-character-identity-theory/

Is This Comics’ New Buffy, Or Is It A Different Fan-Favorite Slayer?



Brandon Zachary

A variant cover for BOOM! Studios reboot of Buffy the Vampire Slayer might tease a familiar slayer's new look.

In 1997, Buffy the Vampire Slayer rebooted an otherwise forgettable cheesy teen flick into one of the most influential television series of the era. Now even as there’s a revamp (ha!) of the television show currently in the works, BOOM! Studios has also announced a reboot of the franchise’s comic book incarnation.

Much like the television show, the new comic will be a full blown modern reboot. While it will still center around Buffy Summers coming to Sunnydale and combating the evils that spawn from the local Hellmouth alongside her friends, it will kick off with a teenage Buffy in the modern day, with an eye towards accurately reflecting the current world.

The comic, which is being helmed by Joss Whedon, Jordie Bellaire and Dan Mora, has released four covers for the upcoming first issue. While two of them show off a familiar looking version of Buffy, and a third focuses on the Hellmoth under SUnnydale High School, the fourth variant (by Royal Dunlap) features a decidedly different looking Slayer.

Is this variant cover just that, a cool looking take on the premise and nothing more? Or does the cover hint at a new take on a classic character from the original series?

Is It Buffy?



One theory suggests that it’s just a variant cover, that it’s simply a different look at Buffy Summers. Of course, it would stand to reason that BOOM! would be making a bigger deal out of recasting Buffy as a young African-American woman, which isn’t part of the initial announcement.

The other two character covers suggest we’ll be seeing a Buffy that more resembles Sarah Michelle Geller in the comic. Thus, the variant might just be that: A one-off alternate cover by a talented artist that wonders how the character could look, not how they will look. It’s worth noting, though, that characters created for variant covers sometimes take on a life of their own, though, like Marvel’s Gwenpool.

Is It Kendra?



The stake in the character’s hand suggests that this is probably a Slayer, or at least someone who knows how to handle themselves like one. If you eliminate Buffy as a candidate, the next logical guess would be to suggest that it’s a new take on Kendra, perhaps hinting at a larger role in the rebooted comic’s mythology.

Trained from her youth in case she was ever called upon to be the Slayer, Kendra arrived in Sunnydale, having been empowered after Buffy’s brief death while fighting the Master. She doesn’t last long, though, as she’s pretty quickly killed by Drusilla.

The comics could be looking to explore and expand Kendra in a way the original show never could, which would explain her prominence in the variants. But we’re not sure. The Slayer on the variant cover has an edge of grunge to her that the proper Kendra never exhibited. It could just be a character change, but we’ll see.

Is It Faith? (Please Let It Be Faith)

Another idea suggests that this could be our first glimpse not at Buffy or Kendra, but at another Slayer: Faith. The third Slayer on the series was introduced after Kendra was killed. Rough around the edges, Faith made for a compelling anti-hero and complicated piece of the show’s over-arching story, alternating between hero and villain over the course of the series’ eight seasons.

Faith, a dark reflection of what Buffy could become if she lost control of herself, eventually found redemption thanks to help from Angel and Buffy during the spin-off series Angel and the final season of Buffy, respectively.

Little things about the character introduced on the variant suggest it might be Faith. The Florida license plate on her car suggests she’s been on the run, which is how Faith is introduced in the original series. Mind you, she comes from Boston in the original continuity, but shifting her to Florida for this reboot would be easy enough. The general aura of toughness and confidence the character exudes on the cover fits more in with Faith than the friendly and strong-willed Buffy, or the precise and sheltered Kendra.



And to be honest? This would actually be a really good design for Faith. It’s confident and cool without trying too hard. She’s battered in the kind of way that a real brawler would be. If it is Faith, it also suggests that recasting and rebooting the series for a more modern audience is being seen to fruition. This could indicate that they’re diversifying the original show’s otherwise completely Caucasian cast, which today is for the best.

The only other character who it could really be is India Cohen, a character who has only appeared in comics and was the immediate predecessor to Buffy in the Slayer line. But we hope it’s not, because that would likely mean she isn’t long for this world before Buffy takes over for her.

In the end, this is probably just a variant cover. But there’s so much personality to this character design, especially if applied to it being Faith, that we hope it instead speaks to the direction the comic is going in moving forward. This is too cool of a Slayer look to waste on a throwaway image.
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https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/joss-whedon-leads-dream-team-on-new-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-comic

Joss Whedon announced as story consultant on new Buffy the Vampire Slayer comic

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Fans of Buffy got a vampire-busting treat today as the creative team behind the upcoming Buffy the Vampire Slayer comic reboot was revealed by BOOM! Studios to include none other than Mister Buffy himself: Joss Whedon. The series creator will be on board the upcoming comic's team as a story consultant.

Boom! also revealed that the comic will be a full reboot, starting the demon fighter's story over from its beginning, and setting it in the world of 2019, not as a continuation of the previous Dark Horse comic. "The world right now is scarier than it's ever been; placing these characters firmly in 2019, we can use the themes that were so integral to the show--identity, agency and empathy--to examine our world and the heroes and monsters that lurk inside all of us...and punch those monsters right in the face," said executive editor Jeanine Schaefer, via a press release.

Eisner Award nominee Jordie Bellaire is on board as the writer, alongside artist Dan Mora. Issue #1's main cover will be drawn by Matthew Taylor, with variants by Kevin Wada, Royal Dunlap, Becca Carey, and Jen Bartel.





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Buffy # 1 from BOOM! Studios is out January 9.

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BOOM January 2019 solicictation.

https://www.newsarama.com/42415-boom-studios-january-2019-solicitations.html

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER #1

Publisher : BOOM! Studios
Retail Price : $3.99
Writer: Jordie Bellaire
Artist: Dan Mora
Cover Artists:
Main Cover A: Matthew Taylor
Main Cover B: Kevin Wada
Main Cover C: Royal Dunlap (Virgin)
Preorder Cover D: Becca Carey (Virgin)
Incentive Cover E: Jen Bartel
Incentive Cover F: Jen Bartel

Synopsis:
- Go back to the beginning as the critically acclaimed pop culture phenomenon Buffy The Vampire Slayer is reimagined under the guidance of series creator Joss Whedon.

- This is the Buffy Summers you know, who wants what every average teenager wants: friends at her new school, decent grades, and to escape her imposed destiny as the next in a long line of vampire slayers tasked with defeating the forces of evil.

- But her world looks a lot more like the one outside your window, as Jordie Bellaire ( Redlands ) and Russ Manning Award-Winner Dan Mora ( Saban’s Go Go Power Rangers ) bring Buffy into a new era with new challenges, new friends...and a few enemies you might already recognize. But the more things change, the more they stay the same, as the Gang faces brand new Big Bads, and the threat lurking beneath the perfectly manicured exterior of Sunnydale High confirms what every teenager has always known: high school truly is hell.

- WELCOME BACK TO THE HELLMOUTH, FOR THE FIRST TIME!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

comic fan wrote:
BOOM January 2019 solicictation.

https://www.newsarama.com/42415-boom-studios-january-2019-solicitations.html

BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER #1

Publisher : BOOM! Studios
Retail Price : $3.99
Writer: Jordie Bellaire
Artist: Dan Mora
Cover Artists:
Main Cover A: Matthew Taylor
Main Cover B: Kevin Wada
Main Cover C: Royal Dunlap (Virgin)
Preorder Cover D: Becca Carey (Virgin)
Incentive Cover E: Jen Bartel
Incentive Cover F: Jen Bartel

Synopsis:
- Go back to the beginning as the critically acclaimed pop culture phenomenon Buffy The Vampire Slayer is reimagined under the guidance of series creator Joss Whedon.

- This is the Buffy Summers you know, who wants what every average teenager wants: friends at her new school, decent grades, and to escape her imposed destiny as the next in a long line of vampire slayers tasked with defeating the forces of evil.

- But her world looks a lot more like the one outside your window, as Jordie Bellaire ( Redlands ) and Russ Manning Award-Winner Dan Mora ( Saban’s Go Go Power Rangers ) bring Buffy into a new era with new challenges, new friends...and a few enemies you might already recognize. But the more things change, the more they stay the same, as the Gang faces brand new Big Bads, and the threat lurking beneath the perfectly manicured exterior of Sunnydale High confirms what every teenager has always known: high school truly is hell.

- WELCOME BACK TO THE HELLMOUTH, FOR THE FIRST TIME!

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"But the more things change, the more they stay the same, as the Gang faces brand new Big Bads, and the threat lurking beneath the perfectly manicured exterior of Sunnydale High confirms what every teenager has always known: high school truly is hell" (synopsis).


Others told me in twitter that btvs comics going to a "new home" after Darkhorse version will bring "new hope" to Bangel fanbase. After reading the synopsis, I dont think there is something to be HOPEFUL in this project,for a Bangel fan nor for an Angel fan such as myself.

Comicfan, I know that you are loyal to this franchise and to the current medium where it is being continued. I know your level of fanaticism is not within the same degree of some of us here. And that is probably the reason why you are so patient in posting "updates" on this forum, which makes this forum keeps on running, regardless if the updates are pro-Bangel or not. And for that, I'm grateful to you.

Nonetheless, it's my personal belief that Bangel no longer lives in comics. No matter how many fans of comic version believe that the stupid Darkhorse comic writers (with BLESSINGS from the "god" himself, Whedon *puke*) made a "smart move" of ANOTHER OPEN-ENDING for Bangel to be together. Hah! Another "continuation", another way to continue the STUPID shipper's debate, another reason to manipulate fan's emotions. All i could say is BULLSH*T!

With the upcoming TV reboot for the NEW Slayer and this Boom's version of HIGH SCHOOL Buffy Summers. Again I say, what a Bullsh*t !!! This is the WORST NIGHTMARE i was talking since Darkhorse made B/S "canon-healthy-relationship." TO REWRITE Buffy's story is TO REWRITE BAngel's story. And i hope I don't have to explain further why I say this so.

Of course, REWRITING BAngel's story, is also rewriting Angel's story.

I always say that Btvs S1-S3 is already a PERFECT Story for Bangel's and Angel's background, despite his curse. Angel S1-S4, is a FITTING story for Angel's redemption arc, but S3 and S4 could be done better. If there's a storyline to rewrite that would be from BTVS S6-S7 and Angel S5. But Joss doesn't want to ERASE his musical "masterpiece" OMWF (which legacy is to inspire more tv shows to have "musical" episodes that are horribly terrible). But I FIRMLY believe that Joss does NOT want to REWRITE Spuke's "redemption" and "evolution" story, so he prefers to DESTROY Angel's storyline and his chance to reunite with Buffy just so he could prove that his stupid "LOVE" concept from his golden boy Spuke is a "BETTER" story for Buffy. *puke*

Oh well, I can understand that all of these "NEW" concepts for btvs franchise is to cater NEW audience and to have some "LOYAL" fans of "something to talk about". Because in their minds, despite of the controversies and stupid shipper's debate, Buffy SHOULD be an INSPIRATION for WOMEN EMPOWERMENT.

Oh Joss Whedon, Gage and Scott Allie (along with Noxon and Espenson), if you all REALLY wanted Buffy to be THE ULTIMATE inspiration of FEMALE EMPOWERMENT, then YOU WOULD NEVER EVER think about of giving positive SPOTLIGHT to the likes of Spuke and his male version of being a "hopeless romantic".

And as to Angel....my poor Angel. WTF joss wants the audience to remember Angel? Oh, his use of hairgel? His overhanging forehead? His melodramatic entrance? his bad Irish accent?...or Angelus?! F@ck joss, while he wants Buffy to be this ETERNAL goddesss whom all men should worship and all girls should aspire to be, he wants Spuke to be her ETERNAL boytoy coz he is a "woke bae"......

...but Angel is STUCK as a man who MUST be DEPRIVED of happiness, BE in his CAGE, and BE PUNISHED eternally, coz if he is FREED, he would kill and torture everyone he loves, coz he is EVIL.

I will always be grateful that I watched Angel first than Btvs, and I loved Angel MORE than btvs. My ONLY regret is that I should have KNOWN earlier what Joss had inside his bald head for Angel's storyline, so I didn't have to be this OVER emotionally frustrated to see what he did to Angel and to his family and friends as compared to Buffy's friends and family.

I hate to be ignorant. But if I wanted to stay sane as a fangirl in this franchise, then IGNORANCE is bliss. Sadly, I can't UNDO what I did as fangirl for Angel and Bangel. And I just can't erase my memory to what I have seen in this fandom. So, to ignore or not to Ignore? That is the question.

I choose to ignore the comics. And live my fangirl life free from any EXPECTATIONS from any unreliable comics writers, no matter if Joss personally "blessed" those writers or not. But I will forever treasure the good things I remember of Angel in TV series, both as a show and as a character.


Comicfan, again thank you for your "updates", even if these updates are not for my liking. But I hope you understand that I am not angry at you but instead my frustrations stated here are ALL directed to Joss and to the people responsible for making Angel's character as non-evolving, favoring B/S over Bangel, and making NON-Closure of the most annoying stupid debate of Bangel vs B/S.


I LOVE BAngel. I LOVE Angel.
I just don't know how long my love for them can WITHSTAND the bad things I am witnessing now that Joss has allowed to happen!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll still be posting updates for these new Buffy comics regardless.

I'm planing to get the first issue atleasr and will go from there.Truthfully,I'm not looking to add more comics to my pull list.I'm actually trying to cut back.If I think issue 1 is decent,I will probably give it a few more issues or a arc to decide if I'm going to stick with them.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I SO feel your pain, elle. Agreed, ditto and “what she said” on all three counts. I was actually hoping that the reboot would make clearer Buffy’s sense of being “the only one” in the fight against darkness “out there” and to show her own ‘darkening’ was in the “injustice” heaped upon because SHE HAD NO CHOICE, particularly if she was also to be a “good person.” What Buffy learned was she had chosen Angel for herself, as her own drive to adulthood for the formation of her own family, apart from ‘mom’ and ‘scoobs.’ Also! Cordelia was interested in finding a person ‘with means’ so she didn’t have to ‘bank-roll’ her supposed independence. Willow never struggled, as her parents paid for her life/education as an “expected roll.” Xander’s path to independence was the murkiest in the nature of time. Sorta going to school, sorta working, sorta is his story until “miraculously” becoming ‘master contractor.’ Never mind actual “book learning” and licensing required on top of ‘know how.’ (Yes, I do appreciate those countries with PAID, living wage, internship to actual professional skills).

Her father cheated; her parents divorced, she tried to save people’s lives and that is often hard on ‘real estate.’ I notice that there are ZERO consequences for that simple fact in all the Marvel lore blowing up buildings with thousands of people IN THEM.

I think it was a very important story that Buffy was already finding her own voice and independence before all the other scoobs. First, she dated, BUT, they also showed later, when they realized Angel was more than a “herald” but was “IT” in that “fate” and “free will” are actually a kind of paradox, too: the chosen didn’t choose, yet they were not chosen to choose each other. Buffy did chose Angel—and both really struggled between “the mission” being supportive “from afar” and even the power and strength of their own awakened humanity—moving from a girl to a woman and for Angel, a woman who called on him to be a real man. (Not just male).

Not to mention that Angel’s own commitment to her meant he had to make the committed work on himself: the truth of Angelus who was just as “committed” to Buffy’s destruction, yet also wanting her to be so human to hurt her for his entertainment, simply because she didn’t break, not to mention the ‘problem’ that his “the one” was also not immortal. Angelus had a stack of paradoxical problems, as well.

Anyway! I do NOT want to see the “triangle” with Angel/Spike/Buffy. It never was. Worse, deciding Buffy wouldn’t know Angel in season eight removed Buffy from Buffy. Worse, yet again, making Spike and Angel all besties made no sense, particularly excluding Dru—which is what Frylliria is supposed to be for Angel and actually was the solution for ANGELUS. So that was all wrong, too.

I do believe that the B/S story to “flip over” the absolute “purity” of “true love” for one of depression lost the idea completely that Buffy was merely an avatar of our own inner guide to the “unknown.” Another words, the psychological landscape versus the reality Buffy lived with such “fears” of the psyche shown as “real” in the world, aka the vampires, the monsters, the lousy adults, etc.

Furthermore, the idea of finding ways to hurt Buffy and Angel with their “required” separation and drive toward each other becomes mindless in not actually finding the truth of the curse for both of them. (AND the actual cost in “ending the world”—of childhood—required to do it; wasn’t that the actual ‘point’ of leaving ‘high school is hell’ in achieving the goal of adulthood/independence and the truth of the paradox of “ever becoming?”

Instead of actually dealing with Buffy/Angel, they decided to “give up’ and call the whole thing “puppy love’ or “immature”—notice that goofy ending with Angel in the comics to prove my point, with Angel not even NOTICING Buffy, and thinking to go after a god/stain-of-Fred.

The writers also felt that swarmy was ‘interesting’—rather than the clarity, yet true PARADOX of both Buffy and Angel in being so knowing IN EACH OTHER, yet both being so new WITH each other. The “lazy way” became the true soap opera of “overwhelmed,” hormonal, emotional, break down versus the nature of ‘true love’ having so much power and maturity and real COSTS of independence (including the DISAPPROVAL to move away from the demanding “support” of others toward the real consequences of one’s OWN choices) that is demanded of these two.

The writers decided the stupid of bedroom antics was “the show” in ‘sex games’ and would be so much easier to “show” that Buffy “declined’ as her sex drive “ate her up” in self hate==not the ISOLATION ALL THIS LOVE FROM OTHERS was really “not so true” because these people “moved on” because LIFE in TIME itself demands we change and serve our own ‘issues’ toward our own growth. Buffy’s depression with Angel’s care would have actually been that “sanctuary” she needed and HE NEEDED TO GIVE. THIS would have been the path toward actually finding their way to facing the REAL problems each has and to do so in the faith each shares with the other, as well.

Worse, yet showing Spike ACTUALLY not so evil, but actually ‘giving her what she wants” (love) AND worse, HIS STORYof how valuable “FORCED change” is, made HIS CHANGES move toward “the light”. And “fixing it” was to have Buffy say THANKS! Forced change was in HER death and the effect of it on others! Her own changes were shown to be in the fact SHE wasn’t ALLOWED to change. Why? BECAUSE ANGEL WAS NOT THERE and NOTHING between them was ALLOWED TO BE QUESTIONED!!

Furthermore, they actually ‘lost track’ of their story by throwing them “under the bus”—when the point of the school bus on the path to school is that the “school” of life is “ever learning lessons.” I mean to say, they never questioned the curse really FOR BOTH OF THEM, let alone both Angel and Angelus and, to me, the “knowing” that Buffy and Angel had, despite their age, was truly fought for and required showing “love” is not a “reward,” but defined the inner whole of SELF to self, to life and to TIME, as was the set of problems set forth to face. That means these people ‘knew’ without Time, yet also went through Time in actually learning and growing and living, each clear in what is precious and WHY the “mission” not only saved the lives of others, but also meant that LIFE itself did not demand “a job” requires “ISOLATION.” Many “first responders” have their own families besides their ‘family’ and team at work, even if on “24 hour” call.

I agree with comic that a few issues is fun to have updates on pop culture. It is a mistake to get rid of the “chosen one”==Joss said he regretted THAT! in all the awful mistakes he actually makes (and is blind to himself to understand, obviously) -- because that sense of “chosen one” or ‘fate’ is actually a great truth of ‘Cinderella’ people, feeling life does pick on them and they don’t deserve it.

The truth of real girl power is your own willingness to CONTINUE to pay YOUR PAIN and giving away your POWER to someone else’s choice IN THE PAST, whether they ever “pay.” It is for YOU to GIVE YOURSELF the forgiveness YOU deserve when you FINALLY SEE that only YOU are choosing to continue to pay in pain and you DON’T DESERVE to do that to yourself, even if it was something you did wrong. You can’t change the past, but you can choose HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT. TAKE BACK YOUR OWN FREE WILL to choose the truth of other ways of feeling and being and doing==the other party doesn’t have a THING to say or do here. It in YOUR life because you are free to learn. YOU “know what to see” and THAT simply is: THIS IS YOUR LIFE; CHOOSE. See Angel…who actually is spouting “existence precedes meaning” aka existentialism. That will not help Angel deal with Angelus. AT ALL. “Girl power” is exactly why Buffy is the only way and the comics actually showed HOW. Active, joyous, “the forever moment” with the consequence of death, for death is the potential of life.

Buffy and Angel chose each other and the commitment and consequences of that, including all the changes that are required in expressing that choice with CONSEQUENCES is a huge part of understanding the self and growing in the struggles of what factors even comprise balance in the story of “becoming.”

I love this story and Buffy and Angel actually telling it. sigh.

HUGS!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^you know, sybil, as usual, I don't think I could grasp everything you write, but somewhere deep inside, I think I can understand what you mean in this whole B/A/S brouhaha, and feel like agreeing with you. And as a matter of fact, I stay awake at this hour just to know if you are going to respond on my post. And I'm glad you did and I'm glad you mention this:
sybil wrote:
Anyway! I do NOT want to see the “triangle” with Angel/Spike/Buffy. It never was. Worse, deciding Buffy wouldn’t know Angel in season eight removed Buffy from Buffy. Worse, yet again, making Spike and Angel all besties made no sense, particularly excluding Dru—which is what Frylliria is supposed to be for Angel and actually was the solution for ANGELUS. So that was all wrong, too.


Though sadly, the "triangle" exists even if we IGNORE its existence. And I think it's going to exist until Joss FINALLY shuts down ONE of the ships. Of course, we all know he is a B/S shipper and all thru the years, he is doing his best to SHUT DOWN Bangel by BLATANTLY developing B/S thru his minions in Darkhorse comics. Of course, he would deny that and his fans would defend him, as well. But the results as we seeing now, will really contradict them. Just like what the a** Christos Gage said that they are NOT PLEASING B/S fans by just handling them the GREATEST GIFT that ALL B/S and Spukey fans want, that is A HEALTHY & NORMAL VISUAL of a "once-abusive" B/S ship. In Gage's mind, he IS WRITING THE BEST STORY! In my native language, I would reply to him "PAKSHET". (It's a colloquial Tagalog term with the same meaning of what it sounds like in English if "P" is "F").

The only reason why Joss COULD NOT shut down Bangel along with its fans wanting to see BAngel together again, is because of the TRUTH that is INHERENT to BAngel: it's SACREDNESS and it's PURITY OF LOVE that exists between two strangers FALLING IN-LOVE with each other, WITHOUT ANY FORCE from the universe that they "SHOULD BE" the IT couple. The kind of love that is NOT Normal in this world, and yet the world wants it to have coz it's the RIGHT kind of love that everyone dreams of. Even B/S fans want that kind of love that Buffy gave to Angel. THE VERY MAIN REASON why they engaged in this ship war, and the VERY MAIN REASON why they wanted spuke to be the "MAN" that Buffy "deserves". And I'm still shocked why Joss, Gage or the spukey fanbase are ALL dumb NOT to realize this basic truth about Bangel! What they actually think as the "BETTER or BEST" story for B/S is just the specter of what BAngel had on early Btvs Seasons.

I don't know what EXACTLY happened at the ending of Darkhorse' version And I don't think I care. But reading your posts gave me idea, and I say, I am glad I DON'T READ the comics. I'm glad that I DON'T HAVE to care that I should read it. I'm glad that I DON'T HAVE TO TORTURE MYSELF and PRETEND I'm happy that Bangel is together again, BUT without REALLY SHOWING me that they ARE INTIMATELY TOGETHER AGAIN, unlike B/S "lovefest" that went for like 3 seasons, that was 4 to 5 years of torture for me as a Bangel fan. Add those to the porn years they had on TV series. And still, Gage have the guts to say that he is STILL proud of what he has done?!!! HA, HA, HA, HA!!!! Rolling Eyes

I wonder very much that if not for #METoo Movement having louder voice online, would Gage still continue his B/S story and still think it's the BEST?! Again, PAKSHET, if he said "yes"!

#MeToo has its flaws when it comes to mob mentality, but it is a powerful MOVEMENT nowadays. With this BOOM version, making Buffy as a"millennial" living in her hell that is high school, and if they presented Angel sneaking up on her room, would the writers consider it as "ASSAULT"?! Would they make Buffy post in her twitter or IG, that there is this gorgeous handsome man in annoying kind of way, sneaking up on her room and use the hashtag #MEtoo?!

If that's so, I can't wait on what they would do on B/S scenes where Spuke sniffs her underwear and made his Buffy shrine with all of Buffy's pics. Also his request for a Buffy-bot as his sex toy. And of course, that "Attempted" RAPE at the bathroom, where Buffy CLEARLY says NO, but he still continues, until she kicked his ball and Xander came in to save Buffy. Would they make the "millennial" Buffy post on her social media account and says, "Spuke is my TRUE LOVE now coz he went to search for his soul after he attempted to rape me. It's okay coz what happened at the rape thing is the same with Angelus trying to kill me when he lost his soul but the BIG difference is Angel can't sleep with me without going full evil mode. But Spuke can be my FOREVER boy toy with or without his soul. #SpuffyForever" ??????!!!!! (I really need a vomit emoticon after writing that)

That is if this Boom version would go FAST FORWARD to that time of resurrected buffy, who is depressed, out-of-school and jobless, has no mother, has no watcher and has been secretly angry at her friends which is not really coz what she is really angry with is HERSELF?!

Tell me again, why the comics are desperately TRYING to recapture that High School Buffy instead of that btvs S6 Buffy, if Season 6 was THE BEST storyline for Buffy? Tell me again, why Scott Allie, Gage and baldy Whedon wanted B/S to have a "HEALTHY" relationship as if Buffy and Spuke are "young lovers doing extreme PDA without feeling humiliated" if they think that B/S FOUNDATION story on Season 6 is equal or better than Bangel?

Tell me the irony or the paradox why Bangel doesn't deserve to be together but B/S is?

But i guess, whatever is the answer, I would probably don't care anymore. Especially, if Joss or his stupid comic minions would answer those.

BECAUSE.I.DONT.TRUST.ANY.OF.THOSE.PAKSHETS.ANYMORE!!!

And sybil, don't tell me about Angel and Spuke being "besties". After killing Doyle, Cordelia, Wesley, Lorne and making Gunn being non-existent in Angel's life, joss prefers Spuke as best friend of Angel?! Again, what a PAKSHET!!! What kind of twisted metaphor Joss wanted to show by that? WHY? Because Spuke and Angel had past history as "family"? Pakshet, that was Angelus. And Spuke blamed Angelus for what he has become. Remember DeKnight's decision to make Spuke the victor on Destiny?

Or because both of them are vamps with a soul, so they need to be "best friends"? Again, PAKSHET. Faith and Kendra are both slayers like Buffy BUT neither of those two became Buffy's best friend! (except with Faith on S3 where Buffy thought Faith was cool). Duh, Joss and his comic writer minion wrote Spuke as Buffy's "best friend" that challenges Xander and Willow's position to Buffy's life.

In real world, how many men would like to make a best friend out of your lover's ex? For Spuke, why would he become best friend to someone he consider as his biggest rival in love and in life. Not to mention the fact that he hated Angel so much that he blamed him for his misfortunes in life. For Angel, why would he WANT to become best friend who attempted to rape the LOVE of his life?!

PAKSHET to joss and who ever made that thing possible in comics world!!!

Okay, sybil, as always, thank you for giving me insights on the things going on in this fandom. I may not always agree with you. Or I may not always understand you. But I feel like, you are the only who can understand me when it comes to above mentioned matters. And for that, I'm grateful.

As to the un-sanitized words I used, I apologize if anyone was offended. But I mean what I say. And I say what I mean. I'm angry at Joss and the whole people in Darkhorse comics who made me "GAVE UP" on a proper BAngel reunion and closure. Though it's good to MOVE on to things OTHER than Bangel, I will forever remember what they did to make feel that the time I spent waiting for continuance of Angel's journey and Bangel's REUNION is nothing but WORTHLESS.

There's nothing SPECIAL about Spuke and B/S. The mere fact that Spukey fanbase says B/S is REALITY coz that happens in REAL WORLD, makes it MUNDANE...meaning, monotonously NORMAL.

It's just so depressing that Joss making B/S as EQUAL STATUS as BAngel is an UPGRADE for Spukey fanbase. But BAngel being EQUAL with B/S, is a BIG DOWNGRADE for Angel fanbase.

I'm not sure that if Joss thinks that by doing so, would further MAKE Buffy's status as ETERNALLY ICONIC, as he wants Buffy to be in line with other iconic comic book heroes, which origin stories changes depending on who writes the story. If that's so, that his pleasure. I just wish things were different from what happened then, from what is happening now, and what is about to happen, if Joss wasn't a spukey lover.

That's it for you, sybil. My eyes are tired. I decided to write these things now, instead of later, which chances are, I may forget doing so.

So I write NOW, while I still have my thoughts on this. Because, to be honest, I really really want to forget these "updates".

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I'll still be posting updates for these new Buffy comics regardless.

I'm planing to get the first issue atleasr and will go from there.Truthfully,I'm not looking to add more comics to my pull list.I'm actually trying to cut back.If I think issue 1 is decent,I will probably give it a few more issues or a arc to decide if I'm going to stick with them.


you have no idea how I wish there's nothing about this comic version that would interest you, but that would be selfish of me to want that. It's your life and your choice, after all. So don't mind me Comicfan. As I said, my rants are not for you. So please continue doing, what you want to do.

If only Joss and the rest of his comic minions would have the GUTS to join in this forum and ANSWER bravely my issues about them, then I wont probably "infest" this comic thread by my "negative" ramblings, as what others here say. I dont join their Q&A on other forums, to avoid MORE tensions with the other ship. But then again, both joss & Gage BLOCKED me in twitter, when I QUESTIONED them the first time their B/S lovefest came out. The PAKSHETS just didnt want to answer my question. So what more now, that things just prove my point the first time I raised it?!!!

that's it. I'm out.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly…the Spuffy fans have wanted what B/A has always had. You said it perfectly. Just as SMG told Joss that Buffy would never “hop into bed” right after her night with Angel, turned Angelus, and Joss said in his overlord tone
“It is what COLLEGE GIRLS do.”. He DISMISSED SMG and said to her: “I’m the boss,” while shutting down his female lead, who he has encouraged to interpret “what is going on” exactly as she had delivered “all along.” Joss just had to “muddy the waters” because Buffy was not failing herself. Joss always wanted the story of self hating guilt/depression to ‘justify’ his own sense of guilt and self entitled arrogance as a “victim” these “powers” try to control in his story telling. No. Joss had an epic and didn’t know where to go from “up” and especially with an honest character like Angel.

THIS incident re “telling off” SMG so early in the story is exactly why nI SO believe Kai Cole in her claims of being manipulated (and thus, also abused) and held to the highest standard her husband was failing in his arrogant “evil God” self entitlement to “have his cake and eat it too, with the “young and needy”—NOT the feminist standard of “capable and independent.” Hmm. Angelus. And David’s “chops” most certainly “showed us how.”


First, Buffy was not in College and second, SMG didn’t go to college-and there is the slam and “shut up, girlie.” I am writing this story, and all you have SHOWN everyone to feel is suddenly ‘out the window” because she will believe the lies of any pretty face? REALLY? Had there been no “acting” with Bufy and Angel, and the creation of the EPIC, (which is not true; the damn thing already was “epic” and is a rework called “The Odyssey.”) this story would never have happened, as Joss wanted to kill Angel off after he told her about the Harvest! Angel was merely “the Herald.” NOT the “LOVER” in quite the internal/external or physical//emotional “virginity” that mirrors both in “opposition” and ‘paradox.’

So, who do you trust? The LIAR, CHEAT, BETRAYER knowing how a person actually can feel, can love, as Buffy and Angel showed? That means holding out FAITH and HOPE, in the face of utter pain and DISBELIEF!

Who do you believe? People who NEVER fail each other, but are DENIED each other or Spuffy in which there is simply ZERO impediment to any usual and boring story one can contrive? The first is Epic. The second is whatever you wish IT WAS NOT.

You got it in summary. Spuffy is everything those fans wish was B/A.

She actually LEARNED one thing about Angel being forced to leave. He is the one who actually truly understood her and was ALWAYS “with her”, just as he always said. Even when he could not. That is a source of comfort, hope and confidence.

THAT is also why ‘loving’ and ‘having a career’ are really not in conflict. And that is also what Buffy and Angel learned. The rest of the story was to face the world that would separate them. Why? Because nothing can. That is why “Buffy loves Angel/Angel loves Buffy” is clear, absolute, simple and shows us who these two are and why they choose as they do.

We saw the real thing. You can’t fake that and make it something it was not. It is epic because it is really is “the story” that holds up most myths through out the world and through out the ages: FOR A REASON.

And btw, it is said “good artists borrow” and “great artists steal.” Well, it really is too bad that Joss started out with everything that MAKES AN EPIC because he USED EPICS to “tell the tale.”

Then, he lost his mind in his self-entitled arrogance of ‘explaining himself’ that simply isn’t epic or feminist or anything that a modicum of honest evaluation that showed us who and why the heroes are the heroes of the piece.

I guess Spuffy just had to learn to believe their lying eyes. And I blame Joss and his own cynical cowardice. IF some of these other writers were to take on these NEW Stories in a high school reboot, we might actually avoid the mistakes that make every single stupid CW show being trotted out to finally wind up with the people they started the stupid story with, ‘but for’ all the stupid blindness to what is in front of them. Buffy and Angel never were “stupid” OR “blind.” They were actually BOTH totally innocent, yet also “knowing.” They KNEW the truth staring them in the face that would define all other choices thereafter. And “writing off” the curse in a world of “magic” and “ancient name that tune” made the whole story fly off the rails.

I have total compassion for ignorant, but really do hate ‘lying stupid’—and repeating that as if I “don’t understand the great genius of “B/S” and B.S., over and over, is called propaganda, not “alternative facts” and most certainly will never be called “epic” when even the last comic creates “stasis.” Hardly memorable. And yes, Joss isn’t totally stupid. He ended season seven with “stasis” for B/A, yet also actual epics, worthy of 10,000 years of human attention and telling. That’s a little longer than all the western religions combined.

So, I can see why Cheryl says ‘trust Joss.’ I think simply that Buffy and Angel don’t fail, Joss fails himself. And that is what Joss was after “all along”: for Buffy to fail herself and for HER to find ‘redemption’. And then his cowardice strikes and we don’t even get “failed art” We get nothing like art, whatsoever. It was just ‘fan dancing.’ Sigh.

ANYWAY. I think these new writers deserve the right to fail. OR NOT. So, whatever bones they set down will determine if I go for the ride. After all. This stuff is not free. And paying for stupid for too long says something, doesn’t it?

You are absolutely right in the questions you ask, especially with “me, too” and actual “cell phones” and “cameras” absolutely everywhere. A lot of ‘explanation’ will be necessary that passes better muster than ‘photographs badly.’ (I fanwanted that having a soul made Angel a little more visible IN THIS PLANE versus the “magic” plane of the dead running around in perfectly solid form. This may be the psychological plane versus that the physical body occupies—a dual kind of “reality.”

This is why the whole ‘Vampire Diaries’ vibe of “we’re all just folk” and there is nothing really different between the supernatural and humans is only a problem when jumping over buildings is handy and “explains” things in “time.” It’s really all too easy and the problems of the immortal are pathetic compared to people, IMO. We don’t have time and we do really die. PERMANENTLY.

And don’t forget, Joss’s “hand” on the tiller has been so very light, he isn’t even there. He is like “Kazui” who ‘produced’ Buffy and never did a thing but get a legal claim for money in getting paid for each credit on each page of anything Buffy forever.

When Joss actually does something, he actually handles a small story quite well. (The slayer in Rome pretending to be Buffy was a good example). Joss simply doesn’t really believe in people, not really. He can’t trust love because humans claim love. He wishes what he knows wasn’t true. Worse, Buffy and Angel are right there to show him how WRONG he is.

So chin up! That is what lasts and has, as long as a human recognizes he is one.



HUGS!
sybil

P.S. Because "me, too" shows what an EPIDEMIC rape, assault, psychological and physical torture are to women to the point the culture doesn't even recognize how prevalent it is, morning to night, I can't believe than ANY person who has suffered these things could ever believe for one minute that Buffy is all empowered because Spike loves her and frantic sex fixes "just everything."

Never mind that Xander and friends split her body and mind "for her own good.." WHEE! And Buffy ends up a COP! with a GUN. When FIRE has been the dominant "symbol" throughout this thing. Even a firefighter is better. And Faith suggests not following "all the rules"--was WRONG??
REally?

Isn't that saying Buffy is "in line" and doing the SYSTEM OF THE military PATRIARCHAL march, in storm trooper boots and YES SIR! And with arms! Doesn't that mean like : "goose stepping" like NAZIs? Where is Buffy's INDEPENDENCE, INTUTION, "doing the right thing"? FREE WILL and CHOICE? WuhHAT?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^sybil, why is it despite of you using profound English words and statements which is beyond my capability, I still feel like I understand you. I know that you don't like a "quote-by-quote" reply posts, but i hope you wont mind that in order to express my views, I'm gonna use it to specifically highlight my response as compared to whatever I can comprehend of your posts.

sybil wrote:
Never mind that Xander and friends split her body and mind "for her own good.." WHEE! And Buffy ends up a COP! with a GUN. When FIRE has been the dominant "symbol" throughout this thing. Even a firefighter is better. And Faith suggests not following "all the rules"--was WRONG??
REally?

Isn't that saying Buffy is "in line" and doing the SYSTEM OF THE military PATRIARCHAL march, in storm trooper boots and YES SIR! And with arms! Doesn't that mean like : "goose stepping" like NAZIs? Where is Buffy's INDEPENDENCE, INTUTION, "doing the right thing"? FREE WILL and CHOICE? WuhHAT?


so you mean, Buffy became a cop AT THE END of the stupid darkhorse version?! That's Great. Actually, NO, it isn't. I'm just being sarcastic. Probably because I specifically remember the facial expression Buffy had in "What's My Line" when her career test's result classified her as Law Enforcer. So her being a cop at the end of this TORTURE comics version, I can't help but to think if that's the BEST plan of "NORMALCY" that Joss and his stupid comic writers minions had in mind for Buffy?!!!! Rolling Eyes I have nothing against Law Enforcer, as I may clarify my comment here. Whether or not that job is "good" generally speaking, well, that is NOT the focus of my issue here. The FOCUS is, if THAT is the JOB that Buffy wanted all along!!! How old is Buffy supposed to be now in darkhorse realm? 30 yrs old? And Joss and his stupid minions got her the "BEST" human job which is really a job that according to some career test, that was DESTINED for her, EVEN IF beforehand she EXPRESSED UNWILLINGNESS to do.

Ladies and gentlemen, That's the kind of FEMALE EMPOWERMENT that Joss wanted to show thru Buffy!!!! WHAT A PAKSHET!!!!

There is nothing better to explain my disapproval, than sharing an ALPHA LEADER quote I found online, which says:

MAKE THE THINGS YOU WANT, WANT YOU!

Of course, that's a business mantra of saying CONTROL YOUR DESTINY! THE POWER IS IN YOUR HANDS TO CONTROL YOUR LIFE!

In Buffy's case, a once-Alpha leader, who at a very young age, was told to do a job of slaying monsters which expressly said SHE DID NOT WANT TO, yet she did it anyway, coz the universe did NOT allow her to leave her duty as a slayer. Eventually, her so-called universe MADE her embrace that job. And now, this stupid comic version, is TELLING me again, that Buffy has A NEW JOB, that SHE DID NOT WANT BEFORE, but the universe MADE HER HAVE IT, and that's THE HAPPY ENDING?!!

WHAT.A.PAKSHET!!!

Yes. I am angry. Because I can see the parallel of Buffy's job to her love life, which the UNIVERSE "wanted" her to have. But, if Buffy's fans are OKAY with how the treatment of universe to her, then who am I to argue?

Whatever they do to Buffy, is for Buffy fans to react. For me, I LOVE THAT HIGH SCHOOL BUFFY OF THE ORIGINAL TV SERIES! I think SHE'S THE GREATEST BUFFY I HAVE SEEN. BECAUSE, AT THE VERY YOUNG AGE, SHE DID NOT HESITATE TO SAY THE THINGS SHE WANTED AND WHAT SHE DID NOT WANT. The only thing that challenges her views was the fact of her age of experience. But despite her young age, she was MENTALLY MATURE enough, TO KNOW RIGHT versus WRONG. TO BE HOPEFUL OF A FUTURE SHE, HERSELF, DID NOT KNOW IF SHE WOULD HAVE. She persisted being a slayer, because in her mind, she knew IT WAS HER DUTY, and HER OBLIGATION to make this world FREE from MONSTERS. But she hoped, NO MATTER HOW LITTLE OF IT, THAT SHE COULD DO WHATEVER SHE WANTED and TO BE WITH THE ONE SHE LOVES, AFTER SHE IS DONE DOING HER DUTY! SHE WOULD BE FREE TO CHOOSE WHATEVER AND WHOMEVER SHE WANTS TO BE WITH, BECAUSE THERE'S NO MORE CHAIN OF SLAVERY FROM FORCED OBLIGATIONS SHE NEEDED TO ATTEND TO. EVENTUALLY, SHE WOULD GET HER POWER TO LIVE HER LIFE WHATEVER SHE WANTED. AND KNOWING HOW SHE ATTENDED HER DUTY IN RESPONSIBLE MANNER, SHE WOULD HAVE HER FREEDOM AND USE IT RESPONSIBLY.

Oh well, that' the Buffy I wish to see at the end. Single Buffy who is FREE. Yes I want it. Enslaved Buffy who thinks she is "free", NO!

And that's one of the reason sybil, why I agree with you that Buffy NEVER GOT her POWER back after the EVENTS in Season 6.

Also, it's good that you remind me of what Faith said about AUTHORITY, in Season 3. Faith said "We ARE the LAW". Buffy disagreed. And now being a cop, what do they think they are? What kind of twisted metaphor Joss and stupid Gage wanted to present? Oh, that Buffy and Faith are NORMAL PEOPLE NOW, going at BAD guys who ARE REAL PEOPLE, because they realized that REAL PEOPLE who have SOULS, are the REAL MONSTERS instead of the DEMONS they had faced & ACTUALLY BATTLED with??!! Is that it?

What's the use of Slayers then? Why there's A NEED of f@cking reboot about NEW SLAYERS, when the OLD POWERFUL SLAYERS are just working as COPS, with guns, BATTLING BAD PEOPLE instead of soulless demons who would would go and rape them to make them feel "loved"??!!!!Oh I forgot, soulless demons CAN have their SOULS AT THEIR CHOICE and BE GOOD PEOPLE "BETTER" THAN PEOPLE WITH SOULS. Because humans, already having their souls, can NOT fix their bad behavior by "getting their souls back"; hence, they NEED to go in jail. But soulless demons, like Spuke, can CHANGE AND TRANSFORM into a "good man". Hah, so much of Angel's curse, and it's metaphor of being in "jail" by having cursed of a soul Rolling Eyes (Angel CAN NOT FIX his curse, because the universe of Joss does/can/will NOT want Angel's curse be FIXED, which is in EXACT OPPOSITE of Spuke whose ANOMALY just got "fixed" of "loving" buffy thru getting his soul back and proving he's a better vampire than Angel?!) Forever Pakshet to joss and his spukey lover minions!!!!

Is that the f@cking metaphor that Joss and Gage wanted me to BELIEVE as BEST ENDING STORY for Buffy or for Faith??!!!! PAKSHET to them. And I wont apologize of saying they are pakshets because they really are. So much for metaphors of "battling demons", when Buffy and Faith are BATTLING HUMANS now and transforming their lives into a procedural cop drama as they would say that HUMANS are WORSE than demons. Yeah, Buffy is now living in OUR reality. She's NORMAL now. She's ONE of us. It's up for the NEW SLAYERS to realize that. But until then, they would just have to undergo what Buffy underwent, PAIN & SUFFERING and ABUSE and LOVING THE ABUSER and they will fight demons which Buffy thought are "less harmful" than Humans.....and then after that, I would have another headache of asking, WHAT'S REALLY THE POINT OF SLAYERS?

Oh, they are just fiction, only for entertainment purposes! Yes. But, A powerful depiction of FEMALE EMPOWERMENT, hah, empower my ass, joss!!! So, if I wanted to be "enjoyed" and "entertained", then let's IGNORE what Joss did and allowed to happen to Buffy's story and instead, ENJOY the ride of CONTINUING Buffy's story, just like the rest of comic book superheroes turning into movies, because, NO BODY even cared anymore to their ORIGINAL stories. That's why they call fiction.

And that's the reason, why I decide to bring my sanity back. They can ENTERTAIN people, for all they want, but THEY CAN'T ANYMORE FORCE ME TO BELIEVE THAT BUFFY WILL BE AN ETERNAL ICON OF FEMALE EMPOWERMENT. Nonetheless, Whether or not Buffy can still be an icon of female empowerment after the stupid comics version, that's for Buffy fans to decide. For me, I will forever adore that high school Buffy and that Buffy who sacrificed herself so her loved ones can live. I DONT KNOW THAT RESURRECTED BUFFY WHO DID THINGS SHE DID NOT WANT, AS SHE SAID, BUT EVENTUALLY, SHE WOULD LOVE THAT THINGS SHE SAID SHE DID NOT WANT, BECAUSE THAT'S HER UNIVERSE WANTED HER TO DO. No, I'm at my thirties and single, BUT i DO NOT want to be that kind of Buffy that Joss and Gage did in stupid comic version. As a matter of fact, I had experienced a situation, where the choices I had was to STAY or LEAVE and LIVE or DIE. I chose to Leave the BAD situation I was into, even if it meant sacrificing the time I spent and good memories I had with people I ended up despising. I chose to LIVE a NEW life, even it meant that I had to face NEW obstacles instead of just "resting at peace". I'm not saying I did the right decisions. But I'm proud of those decisions because I still HAVE HOPE, that someday, I could be the person who I WANT to be and a person who NEVER GIVES UP of on MY DREAMS, even if it means I probably would get it at old age. I know I just NEED to do BETTER than what my old self did. But in case, I don't get what I want, I am just hoping, that I WONT be DESPERATE again to have something I DON'T WANT. Because that would be stressful. If Joss and Gage, magically "created" a world without stress for Buffy being a cop, then, maybe...uhm, NO. I still think what they did is PAKSHET Razz

I know sybil that you don't believe on Christian God, which contrary, I happen to believe onto. Whether or not I could hold onto that faith, who knows. But I do love the idea of a just and merciful deity. A deity who despite knowing he/she CAN control EVERYTHING, still GIVES his/her creation FREEDOM TO LIVE their life. Hence, I find it so funny about Joss and his "atheistic" belief. He said he does NOT believe in god in ANY form. Joss has issues with the whole "destiny" as it reminded of Fred's speech of in Angel Season 3, "Offspring":

WINIFRED BURKLE to everyone: Can I say somethin' about destiny? Screw destiny! If this evil thing comes, we'll fight it and we'll keep fightin' it until we whup it. 'Cause destiny is just another word for inevitable, and nothing's inevitable as long as you stand up, look it in the eye, and say, "You're evitable!

Yet, despite of his "atheistic views" he has NO issues being a "god" in his creation. He has no issues "CONTROLLING" these characters into what he BELIEVES as "GOOD" thing, without ACTUALLY thinking if what he does for them is GOOD or BAD, because joss doesn't believe about these "MORAL" rules that govern our society. Thus he thinks of himself as "WOKE BAE" aka "THE ENLIGHTENED MAN". Which, brings me to another point of what you posted:

sybil wrote:
Exactly…the Spuffy fans have wanted what B/A has always had. You said it perfectly. Just as SMG told Joss that Buffy would never “hop into bed” right after her night with Angel, turned Angelus, and Joss said in his overlord tone
“It is what COLLEGE GIRLS do.”. He DISMISSED SMG and said to her: “I’m the boss,” while shutting down his female lead, who he has encouraged to interpret “what is going on” exactly as she had delivered “all along.” Joss just had to “muddy the waters” because Buffy was not failing herself. Joss always wanted the story of self hating guilt/depression to ‘justify’ his own sense of guilt and self entitled arrogance as a “victim” these “powers” try to control in his story telling. No. Joss had an epic and didn’t know where to go from “up” and especially with an honest character like Angel.

THIS incident re “telling off” SMG so early in the story is exactly why nI SO believe Kai Cole in her claims of being manipulated (and thus, also abused) and held to the highest standard her husband was failing in his arrogant “evil God” self entitlement to “have his cake and eat it too, with the “young and needy”—NOT the feminist standard of “capable and independent.” Hmm. Angelus. And David’s “chops” most certainly “showed us how.”


Yes, I do remember that quote from SMG. And if I remember it correctly, she even reiterated on Season 7 interview, as to why she was leaving Buffy, that she's glad that Joss wont have TO SHOUT at her, anymore. SMG also said in an interview, that she FELT DEGRADED doing sex scenes on BtVS Season 6. If there was #MeToo movement back in the days, I am pretty sure, Joss' career would have been CANCELLED right away SMG stated these quotes. But then again, whedonites would cry out that if Joss' career would be cancelled, Avengers wont happen and MCU wont be MCU as we know of it today. Sorry, but I'm a DC fan, so I couldn't relate to their sentiments. Nonetheless, they do have a point. But whether or not, Joss should be hailed as "GREATEST", that's for future fiction's fans to debate, which would happen to be ANOTHER useless debate, but I happen to believe now, that NO, Joss is NOT THE GREATEST, if we talked about GREATNESS in its REAL SENSE of the word. His fans can argue with me of course, but they would NEED to control my mind for me to CHANGE my belief.

As to his wife's claim, I decided to leave that between them. But yes, it's easier for me TO BELIEVE Kai Cole, even if she's the voice I didn't hear before as compared to Whedon. This is the woman who was with him since the beginning of his career. She's with him longer than the Whedonites claimed they have been a fan of Joss. She's with him INTIMATELY. She's the one he said HE WILL ALWAYS "LOVE" and she believed it was so. And despite of the betrayals, SHE CHOSE TO BE WITH HIM because she GAVE him a chance, UNTIL she CHOSE TO BE FREE AND LEAVE HIM!!!In short, she KNOWS Joss BETTER than anyone one of us here who "loves" and "hates" that man. And when she said she was BETRAYED for reasons she stated, it's easier for me to believe her. Why? Because she's the person who KNOWS joss better than anyone Joss has been with (probably with the exception of his mother) ...and yet, what she said about him, is the SAME as I what I have viewed Joss eversince I decided to rant against him. Is it coincidence that there are people who DIDN'T even know joss personally, such as me, but have the SAME view of that man as with the person who was WITH joss?! I could not speak on behalf of others. But for me, I LOOK FOR SIGNS. I OBSERVE. AS I OBSERVE, I OPEN MY EYES AND MIND. That's what I do in order to FORM AN PERSONAL OPINION. I don't know what others do. Or Perhaps they do the same thing...THEY JUST CHOOSE TO IGNORE! And of course, IGNORANCE IS BLISS, if you want to ENJOY THE FICTION.

sybil wrote:
She actually LEARNED one thing about Angel being forced to leave. He is the one who actually truly understood her and was ALWAYS “with her”, just as he always said. Even when he could not. That is a source of comfort, hope and confidence.

THAT is also why ‘loving’ and ‘having a career’ are really not in conflict. And that is also what Buffy and Angel learned. The rest of the story was to face the world that would separate them. Why? Because nothing can. That is why “Buffy loves Angel/Angel loves Buffy” is clear, absolute, simple and shows us who these two are and why they choose as they do.


As i understand of what you are trying to say, Buffy and Angel BOTH did a job of becoming "TPTB's soldiers", whose job is SAVE the world from monsters. Both didn't ask for those jobs. But THEY WERE CHOSEN to do it. And that's where the whole conflict of their stories in TV series really revolves into. TO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS NOBLE AND SELFLESS. THAT'S OBLIGATION. THAT'S TEACHING US TO BE RESPONSIBLE. THAT'S TEACHING US HOW TO SACRIFICE. THAT'S SHOWING US TO BE SELFLESS

And we audience, GET that. We Tolerated that "conflict". As a matter of fact, WE LOVE IT, not just because of Angst, but we were HOPING that there WILL COME A DAY that THEY COULD RESOLVE such conflict, WITHOUT GIVING UP of the things Buffy and Angel ACTUALLY WANT for themselves.

It's either Joss and Gage and the rest of spukey lover minions ARE BUNCH OF FOOLS by doing the opposite of it, or we Bangel fans are FOOLED to believe that joss and his minions WOULD do the things WE HOPED they would do. Which is which?

But I wont be angry and feel frustrated as I am now, if I didn't feel betrayed and be fooled at. Two decades....and this is what the "BEST HAPPY ENDING", joss ALLOWED his stupid minions to WRITE for Buffy and Angel. Buffy, still in "eeny, meeny, miny, moe" between Angel and Spuke, while Spuke and his fanbase got the "BEST" of Buffy's (after getting her at worst), and Angel, despite of all the TRAGEDY in his life, STILL NOT WORTHY of his curse being LIFTED or even NOT WORTHY to be written longer of BEING with Buffy, because the f@cking idiot comic writers, along with that bald man Joss, DID NOT know HOW to write Buffy and Angel TOGETHER, WITHOUT making their golden boy Spuke IRRELEVANT and LESS BETTER than Angel, as what he IS, in the FIRST PLACE?! Pakshets to them!

P.S.

Allright, sybil, I better stop now. As usual, I write all of these impromptu and I am feeling exhausted by just exerting so much passion and energy. It's not something I wanted to stress out, but let it be known to other Bangel/Buffy/Angel fans who would read, and would just happen to read this, I just want you to know that I'M SO PASSIONATE about BAngel!!! Our level of passion as fans may differ, but I am PROUD of being a Bangel fan. While i dont deny that my passion is leaning greater towards Angel, I say for certain that I believe Buffy and Angel are the YIN and YANG. THE ETERNAL CONCEPT OF BALANCE. THE PERFECT SYMBOL OF UNITY AND EQUALITY DESPITE OF THEIR DIFFERENCE. THE DAY & THE NIGHT. THE MALE & THE FEMALE. TOGETHER THEY ARE POWERFUL.. That's Buffy and Angel for me. That's BAngel. That's B/A.

And i wont regret being a Bangel fan. A B/A'er. But if Joss and his stupid minions wanted to "create" a universe, where he wants his audience, viewers and readers to be IGNORANT and just ENJOY the stories he wants "to tell", then I REGRET the fact, that ONCE, I TRUSTED Joss and his promise of BAngel story of reunion! PAKSHET to him and his stupid minions. The ONLY thing I could believe him is his quote to Bangel fans decades ago: TRUST THE TALE, NOT THE TELLER!. But I doubt that joss even remembers that quote, or for all I know, he must have ANOTHER interpretation of it catering for Spukey and B/S fans.


But yeah, I TRUST THE TALE. THE BUFFY & ANGEL'S TALE. THE BANGEL'S TALE. So, this "new" and "reimagined" H.S. Buffy and "new" slayer for the upcoming reboot, these are for NEW audience to "enjoy". If there are OLD fans who want to show LOYALTY and want to "enjoy" these "new" ride, then let them be. That's THEIR CHOICE. It's just for me, THERE'S NO POINT of "enjoying" the story, if I don't trust the storytellers anymore. I may laugh at their antics and may consider it as "fun", just like HOW everyone views "fun" as "COOL STUFF". But then again, many people think Spuke was a "funny" guy and hence he is "cool". A perfect metaphor of how audience thinks that "COMEDY", no matter how rude & offensive the "jokes" are, STILL CONSIDERED AS FUNNY and COOL. Because nowadays, being RUDE & OFFENSIVE is a manner of subjective opinion. But being funny & cool is a form of "high intelligence". Isn't that why Joss and spuke are loved by his fans, because they are "fun & cool"?

Oh well, I dont need FURTHER narrative from joss and his spukey lover minions, in order for me to talk MORE of Bangel & Angel. With the way they handled the comics, I really want them to be AWAY from Bangel or Angel. Besides, the way Joss handled Angel in Buffy's story for this stupid comic version, MADE lots of Bangel fans SILENT about being a Bangel fan. Evidence? Oh well, where are the other Bangel fans nowadays? Again, I ask.

It's either they went to OTHER fandoms or just choose TO LIVE their REAL life and enjoy other things they want for themselves. And I envy them. I envy those Bangel fans who have seen this coming and PREFERRED to be FREE by giving up these comics narrative as early as possible.

So, "new" Buffy..."new" Slayers..."new" stories, from Joss and his minions?! No thanks!

Can I say somethin' about Joss' "new" slayer thing? Screw Joss, you evil scum! If this evil thing comes, we'll fight it and we'll keep fightin' it until we whup it. 'Cause Joss' is just another word for inevitable, and nothing's inevitable as long as you stand up, look it in the eye, and say, "You're evitable!"

I don't need the comics or this 'new' slayer reboot to talk about BAngel. If there's a JUST & MERCIFUL god "handling" Bangel's story in real life, I do believe that Buffy & Angel would find their way BACK together, without someone like Spuke "coming between" them. Thus, I'm certain that if such god existed, he/she is not named "joss" or any names of his stupid spukey lover minions Wink

That's all. Thanks again sybil. I apologize for all the bold letters and capitalization. I'm not shouting at you. I'm just trying to emphasize for everyone that would read this, the highlights of my post. I apologize for the mods who have been tolerant of my posts. Again, you are free "to regulate" me and I would be inclined to make adjustments for my posts. It's just for me, as always, I'm emotional when it comes to Bangel. Because, despite of knowing and recognizing the craziness and triviality of being a fangirl to a fictional couple, I DO BELIEVE that the Bangel's TALE is FAR GREATER than any words from the "story tellers" who got their "rights" to RE-TELL their tale!
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