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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:32 pm    Post subject: Hej! Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I'm new! (duh.) My name is Mila (short for Milena), I'm 24 years old and I'm from Germany (well, I was born there and I just moved back here two days ago, before that I lived in England and before that, Russia). My family is Czech so I don't *really* know what I'm supposed to tell people, but I don't really care either. I study English at MA level and want to be a teacher eventually.

*takes deep breath* I'm relatively new to the ship even tho I've been a fan of BtVS for longer than I care to admit, but for some reason I only ever watched season 4, 5, 6 and 7 (and, without any knowledge about ships and fandom and stuff like that, was a bit of a Spuffy trooper) until this spring when my flatmate suddenly brought home the entire series and we both unexpectedly and pathetically turned into blubbering fan girls after S1E08.

*exhales* I'm really glad I found this place! I guess I know some of your names because I read a MASSIVE amount of fanfiction over the summer when I promised my flatmate not to go on watching without her and I had to somehow feed my addiction, and I think it's really cool that so many of you are still active in the fandom, because I discovered that a lot of my favourite writers turned their back on the Whedonverse years ago...

Aaaanyway, I guess you realised that I tend to talk too much... but if I missed a vital bit of info about myself, feel free to ask Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello! My, you have travelled a lot, haven't you? Shocked

If you want to chat, a lot, feel free. It's what we're here for!

Welcome to the forum!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vitam vas v Blood Roses...

...My family is Czech too. (I don't actually speak the language, and if you do, you're probably already laughing at how I mangled that one sentence, but I couldn't resist. We're not that common!)

Always gotta appreciate a fan who has read a lot of B/A fanfiction! I know when I joined this forum I was excited to talk to some of those names I had seen in various archives. Do you do any writing yourself?

Great to meet you, hope you enjoy yourself here!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! You have travelled a lot, and you made me feel breathless with your enthusiasm, which is fantastic.

Welcome to the forum. We're happy you've found the fandom and the forum.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey there! Welcome!

I love your story of how you found the ship. So different from what you usually hear Smile

Have you just started your masters? I just started one myself...it's not easy! lol
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aw, thanks everyone for the warm welcome! Makes me feel tingly all over Smile

@Kairos your family is Czech? That's awesome, do you know what part they are from? I don't really "speak" the language as such, meaning I can understand most of it but since I've never really actively spoken it except when I did a language course for my undergrad (apparently I have an extremely convincing accent but my grammar SUCKS) or when I get drunk at family gatherings and get the urge to reconnect with my roots, but even then I always realise later that all I do is mispronounce Russian (and jumble up the sentence structure). Anyway, děkuji Smile

As a matter of fact, I have dabbled in a few fics (I have three stories (two for "House" and one for "Titanic") on ff.net and they received moderately good reviews) and I'm currently working on my contribution for this year's IWRY, but I think I need to understand the dynamics of this relationship better (I've never done anything so, well, *epic* before) before it will be anywhere near fit for publishing.

@Kean it's a two year course and I'm one year in. I'm currently working on my dissertation which is KILLING me, and if I manage to finish by December, I can graduate a semester early, which is what I'm attempting to do. Are you doing English as well? Do you specialise in anything? My main focus is on Irish 20th century literature, but I also like Victorian realism and children's literature...

Anyway, thank you again for welcoming me! I daresay you'll hear a lot from me Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@Kean it's a two year course and I'm one year in. I'm currently working on my dissertation which is KILLING me, and if I manage to finish by December, I can graduate a semester early, which is what I'm attempting to do. Are you doing English as well? Do you specialise in anything? My main focus is on Irish 20th century literature, but I also like Victorian realism and children's literature...



Oh lady, I think we shall be friends Wink

I'm doing my masters in International Studies but my undergrad was in English and History, I'm Irish myself and my main interest in both subjects was Ireland from 1840-1922.

What's your dissertation about?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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@Kairos your family is Czech? That's awesome, do you know what part they are from? I don't really "speak" the language as such, meaning I can understand most of it but since I've never really actively spoken it except when I did a language course for my undergrad (apparently I have an extremely convincing accent but my grammar SUCKS) or when I get drunk at family gatherings and get the urge to reconnect with my roots, but even then I always realise later that all I do is mispronounce Russian (and jumble up the sentence structure). Anyway, děkuji Smile


My father was born and raised in Prague. I spent a little time there myself, in a little flat right by Vaclavske Namesti, and my heart never left...

Love your language story. I'm insane with jealousy for anyone with more than one language at their disposal, even if some are imperfect. Smile And as far as I can tell, the accent is the hard part in Czech. (That soft R? I know native speakers who can't do it.)

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on ff.net and they received moderately good reviews) and I'm currently working on my contribution for this year's IWRY, but I think I need to understand the dynamics of this relationship better (I've never done anything so, well, *epic* before) before it will be anywhere near fit for publishing.


Oh! Hi, participant! That's excellent, can't wait to see what you produce. And I love it that you're considering the epic aspect of the couple. It does complicate writing for them, doesn't it?

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Oh lady, I think we shall be friends


It's like she researched all of us and found out what we would like before she posted, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're Irish? that is brilliant, I adore EVERYthing Irish to the point of obsession! I was working in a pub in London over the summer and customers were always mistaking me for Irish (that is, until I opened my mouth). Something to do with having dark hair and an indecent amount of freckles, I suppose Wink Anyway, it pleased me no end. I'm always told that I use Irish phrases as well, which, coupled with the Aussie accent that I somehow managed to pick up and can't seem to get rid of, apparently amuses people...

Anyway, my dissertation is about violence against women in 20th century Irish fiction and their relationship to alcohol and drugs. Sounds dreary, I know, but I'm trying to see past the victim aspect and prove that most of them are actually incredibly strong and find their own ways to fight back, which I'm then trying to prove by analysing different epochs of Irish history with respect to society's approach to women's issues and the women's reaction to it. It's funny, I've never really seen myself as a gender studies person, but there you go... now I can't watch or read anything anymore without analysing it towards its gender aspect (which, incidentally, is quite a lot of fun when it comes to Buffy and Angel). Wink

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I should like that very much Smile And, wow, International Relations... I did consider that as well (I actually wanted to do European Studies at UCL and got as far as the interview, but I must have messed it up big time, because I never heard from them again - they didn't even send me a letter to say they didn't want me!) but it's probably good that I didn't, because I just love literature too much. Where do you want to end up eventually, do you know that already?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kairos said

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It's like she researched all of us and found out what we would like before she posted, isn't it?


Very much so. She's either a spy or psychic. Wink

mayfever wrote:
you're Irish?


Indeed, I am!

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that is brilliant, I adore EVERYthing Irish to the point of obsession! I was working in a pub in London over the summer and customers were always mistaking me for Irish (that is, until I opened my mouth). Something to do with having dark hair and an indecent amount of freckles, I suppose Wink Anyway, it pleased me no end. I'm always told that I use Irish phrases as well, which, coupled with the Aussie accent that I somehow managed to pick up and can't seem to get rid of, apparently amuses people...


We do tend to be a dark haired befreckled bucnh! Wink I can already spot the phrasing part. "That is brilliant"-grade A Irish phrasage right there Wink

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Anyway, my dissertation is about violence against women in 20th century Irish fiction and their relationship to alcohol and drugs. Sounds dreary, I know, but I'm trying to see past the victim aspect and prove that most of them are actually incredibly strong and find their own ways to fight back, which I'm then trying to prove by analysing different epochs of Irish history with respect to society's approach to women's issues and the women's reaction to it. It's funny, I've never really seen myself as a gender studies person, but there you go... now I can't watch or read anything anymore without analysing it towards its gender aspect (which, incidentally, is quite a lot of fun when it comes to Buffy and Angel). Wink


That sounds incredibly interesting. What texts are you using? I dabbled a little with the topic in regards to Joyce and Dubliners. Not too in depth though.

I'd hazard a guess that the history of how women were treated in society is rather inconsistent, especially in literature. Glorified for Ireland and her struggles in in one verse only to be sent to the kitchen in the next.

The interesting thing about that period is that so many of those involved in the Literary Revival were tied up in the revolution as well.

Sorry, I've rambled. I tend to geek out and do that a lot when it comes to this topic.

I'll be quiet now. Embarassed

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I should like that very much Smile And, wow, International Relations... I did consider that as well (I actually wanted to do European Studies at UCL and got as far as the interview, but I must have messed it up big time, because I never heard from them again - they didn't even send me a letter to say they didn't want me!)


A pox on their house for treating you so poorly!

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Now that is the million dollar question. I think I want to get into war, conflict resolution and peace. I can't seem to shake my interest in my own country so I have a feeling I will end up getting involved in Northern Ireland and the pursuit for a final and lasting peace on this island.[/quote]
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kairos wrote:

My father was born and raised in Prague. I spent a little time there myself, in a little flat right by Vaclavske Namesti, and my heart never left...


I can totally relate to that. And I am literally green with envy right now. I've never lived in Prague (my family is from a small town about halfway between Prague and Brno, 10 miles from the Austrian boarder) but it's only a three hour car ride from where I live now so I sometimes sneak away for a weekend. Have you ever watched a sunset from the Hradcin? The view is so ridiculously beautiful that it makes my heart hurt, and you have to know that I'm just about the most cynical person in the world who simply DOES NOT SAY things like "makes my heart hurt".

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It's like she researched all of us and found out what we would like before she posted, isn't it?


Oh dear, you caught me. Red-handed.

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That sounds incredibly interesting. What texts are you using? I dabbled a little with the topic in regards to Joyce and Dubliners. Not too in depth though.


Thank you very much! And spot on, I'm indeed using two texts from "Dubliners" ("Eveline" and "The Boarding House" to be specific), Edna O'Brien's "Country Girls" trilogy (I LOVE her!), "Angela's Ashes" by Frank McCourt and Roddy Doyle's "The Woman Who Walked Into Doors" and the sequel "Paula Spencer". I'm also including three of Marian Keyes' books that deal with the topic.

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I'd hazard a guess that the history of how women were treated in society is rather inconsistent, especially in literature. Glorified for Ireland and her struggles in in one verse only to be sent to the kitchen in the next.


Indeed. Queen Medbh and Caitlin Ni Houlihan on the one hand and Poor Mother Ireland on the other... that's the dichotomy I'm trying to explore!

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Sorry, I've rambled. I tend to geek out and do that a lot when it comes to this topic.


Haha, join the club!

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I can't seem to shake my interest in my own country so I have a feeling I will end up getting involved in Northern Ireland and the pursuit for a final and lasting peace on this island.


I have to say I find that incredibly interesting (not to mention worthwhile, laudable and good) as well. I have to choose a topic for my finals in cultural studies and at the moment I'm thinking I'll probably take the Troubles... I have a class about it starting next week, so I guess I'll see how that goes.

Stunning how much we have in common besides an unhealthy obsession with a fictional couple Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank you very much! And spot on, I'm indeed using two texts from "Dubliners" ("Eveline" and "The Boarding House" to be specific), Edna O'Brien's "Country Girls" trilogy (I LOVE her!), "Angela's Ashes" by Frank McCourt and Roddy Doyle's "The Woman Who Walked Into Doors" and the sequel "Paula Spencer". I'm also including three of Marian Keyes' books that deal with the topic.


LMAO! Eveline and The Boarding House are the two I focused on too. And wow, you are really covering the entire century. When I think of Irish writing during the 20th century I always seem to stop at the first literary revival and forget about the rest.

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Indeed. Queen Medbh and Caitlin Ni Houlihan on the one hand and Poor Mother Ireland on the other... that's the dichotomy I'm trying to explore!


Gah! Caitlín Ní Houlihan is one of my very favourites, "...and she had the walk of a queen". I'm such a Yeats groupie it's embarrassing.

You you probably know this anyway but Eavan Bolan and Nuala Ní Dhomhnaill have both written extensively on the issue of gender in the Irish canon. It's a very interesting perspective to have from female Irish writers. Ní Dhomhnaill tells a story of how growing up in Dingle. It was always the men in the family that carried on the storytelling tradition and her grandfather, suspecting that she had the gift, asked her a question but did so in a couplet and she replied, without missing beat with a couplet of her own. Her grandfather was devastated. It was said that if the gift was passed on to a female in the family that was the end of it. No other member of that family would hold the gift again. It was regarded as a curse.

Rather telling of the attitude towards women.

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Stunning how much we have in common besides an unhealthy obsession with a fictional couple Wink


I think it's hilarious. There is literally nothing on this planet that I love more than Irish history/culture and Buffy/Angel.

This convo is actually making me sad I didn't purse a history or lit masters now.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You you probably know this anyway but Eavan Bolan and Nuala Ní Dhomhnaill have both written extensively on the issue of gender in the Irish canon.


I've come across them in my research, I even wanted to include a few of Boland's poems in my primary literature (there's an entire volume that deals with domestic violence) but my supervisor warned me not to get distracted, and in retrospective I think he's right. I'm already worried sick that I won't be able to do the texts that I have now enough justice...

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There is literally nothing on this planet that I love more than Irish history/culture and Buffy/Angel.


Well, I have a few other obsessions (Oscar Wilde, for example, and to a lesser extent Tolkien and Harry Potter and football), but those two are pretty high up on the list Wink

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This convo is actually making me sad I didn't purse a history or lit masters now.


The silver lining is, at the end of the day you'll have a well-paid job and I, well, won't. Also, I sometimes get annoyed with myself because I find it so hard to simply enjoy a book now... I'm always analysing narrative patterns and symbolism and predicting endings (I actually knew how Harry Potter was going to end. I wrote a list of things I was expecting to happen in the last book due to events that happened in other works of fiction that IMO had influenced JK Rowling and had my mum lock it up until the release date. I was correct about ~70 per cent of them). Also, I can't help it but I judge people by the contents of their book shelf and when I broke it off with my first boyfriend, one of the reasons I gave my mum (who loved him and was devastated) was "Anyway, his favourite author is Tom Clancy, what did you expect me to do?" That was 6 years ago and I'm still getting teased about it...
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Well, I have a few other obsessions (Oscar Wilde, for example, and to a lesser extent Tolkien and Harry Potter and football), but those two are pretty high up on the list Wink


Man Utd nutter reporting for duty.

Of course there are other things I love but the afore mentioned would be the big ones.

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My job prospects aren't any better really. Still humanities. Still all but unemployable.

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Also, I sometimes get annoyed with myself because I find it so hard to simply enjoy a book now... I'm always analysing narrative patterns and symbolism and predicting endings (I actually knew how Harry Potter was going to end. I wrote a list of things I was expecting to happen in the last book due to events that happened in other works of fiction that IMO had influenced JK Rowling and had my mum lock it up until the release date. I was correct about ~70 per cent of them). Also, I can't help it but I judge people by the contents of their book shelf and when I broke it off with my first boyfriend, one of the reasons I gave my mum (who loved him and was devastated) was "Anyway, his favourite author is Tom Clancy, what did you expect me to do?" That was 6 years ago and I'm still getting teased about it...


Oh I am sooooooo guilty of this, although more so with history. I find it impossible to suspend belief when watching an historically based film or show. I will ruin it everyone and point out how it is all wrong and crap. It doesn't even matter that the film wasn't made with historical accuracy in mind (Titantic, Pearl Harbour...). I can't let go. Even in really good films. Like in Million Dollar Baby I went off on a rant because Eastwood reads Yeat's poems in Irish (terribly I might add). Yeats never wrote in Irish.

Actually the most recent example is the thread here about Liam and his canon and how it is historically inaccurate. Like wow.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mayfever wrote:

I can totally relate to that. And I am literally green with envy right now. I've never lived in Prague (my family is from a small town about halfway between Prague and Brno, 10 miles from the Austrian boarder) but it's only a three hour car ride from where I live now so I sometimes sneak away for a weekend. Have you ever watched a sunset from the Hradcin? The view is so ridiculously beautiful that it makes my heart hurt, and you have to know that I'm just about the most cynical person in the world who simply DOES NOT SAY things like "makes my heart hurt".


I can understand precisely where you're coming from, since I just now got caught in this sneak attack daydream of the rose gardens on Petrin Hill (and I never even got to see them in full bloom). I am loaded with envy over your current location.

Also, loving the discussion going on here with you and Kean. I may have to come back to this thread when I'm ready to add to my reading list. Oh, and we may have to geek out over Tolkien.
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